Adoptions FAQ » Cat Adopt » Tarred Kitten Goes To New Home, Kitten Named 'Angel'
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I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years.
I hope its not a kill shelter you work at. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice? You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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hunnybunnyfunnybunny(hbfb) wrote in No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Sounds discriminatory to me. Why should seniors be denied the sharing of affections with a companion animal? Should I, now at age 52, look to surrender my young felines, because there is the possibility I’ll die before them. My lass, there is always a possibility, no matter the age, no matter the source, be it from bullet, cancer, or coronary, that I’ll leave this earth ahead of my furries. I can just as much control the length of my life as command the sun to stop shining. As long as the woman is capable of love and caring for Yoda’s extensive needs, what the hell else matters! Quality, not the quantity of life, is what matters most. While the latter is in God’s hands, the former is in ours. —dave k
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The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful.
I was quoting from the orginal poster’s statement, which I’m inclined to believe is true – these sad cases which get publicity always get a host of people rushing to help, though admittedly not all of them would be suitable. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway.
Who rattled your cage? I’m entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours. I haven’t seen any footage of this, just a bald statement of fact that a 70 year old was given this kitten. It’s interesting how you feel the need to sink to personal attacks just to make your point. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction.
Oh really? Do please give examples of my "negativity". IIRC, you’re the one who favours the death penalty, I’d say you can’t get more negative in your outlook than that. As for this kitten, I’d say I’m a realist. As somebody who works for a charity which takes in the pets of elderly people who have died, I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years. If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted about three times in the last week IIRC. Helen
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted in two threads in the last week IIRC. Helen
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I hope its not a kill shelter you work at.
your memory’s getting rusty, Michelle, must be all those declawing threads you’re engrossed in. I’m in UK where kill shelters are virtually unheard of, and no, I don’t work for one of the kill shelters. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice?
It’s not my choice, it’s the shelter policy but yes I do agree with it. Elderly people are not denied a cat, they are offered adult cats instead. Get over it. You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time.
So? No, not all seniors are geriatric or ill, but the chances of a 70 year old living another 15 years are by definition not as high as those for a 40 or 50 or 20 year old. It is therefore a factor in the decision. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination.
If elderly people choose to get cats from free ads, fine, we can’t stop them and it’s not our responsibility. But for those cats we are responsible for, we make rules we think are best for the *cats*. Pray do tell where all these elderly litigants are going to get free food and vet care from? There is no law against age discrimination in the UK at present, we are not as litigious a society as you anyway, and finally, in the UK you have no legal right to own a pet. So they wouldn’t get a penny off us. Hope this settles things for you because unlike others I’m not going to be dragged into your endless, tedious arguments. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen
You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other? So long, the rest of you. Enjoy. Jen
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Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is.
Its the ones that have no respect or tolerance for others and think the world should be run the way they say it should be run. they’re just little control freaks….just remember what goes around comes around and one day they’ll get theirs. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
The lady looked pretty damned spry to me… and since my father-in-law just passed away last year at 98, still living alone in his own home till he was 97, dating a woman 20 years his junior, ballroom dancing, bowling, walking at the mall, doing his own house work, laundry, and cooking… I’d say she was worth the chance. Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is. Jen
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<snip They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen
The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction. Jen
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: legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we : realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on : the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that : freedom of speech thing Fine, but dont’ expect anyone to believe you over her. Go ahead and do so, you just make yourself look stupid and less credible. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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you just make yourself look stupid and less credible.
stupid? ***i’m*** not the one who walked my dog near automobile traffic – arent cars dangerous to dogs? hmmmmm, not sure…..lemme think……maybe i should just do it anyway – surely it wont be a problem
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WHat is WITH you?? Knock it off! Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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What ARE you talking about? She did not do anything to her dog. Please, either join the forum and stop being obsessive or just don’t contribute to a thread. Please. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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::Plonk!::
water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance!
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water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets, dance!
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home
who said anything about being the *BEST* candidate – were you the *BEST* person that could have adopted your animals? – im sure that there was someone better that could have and would have taken them are you saying that this woman is not entitled to the joy of pet ownership simply because she is old? give her a break – maybe she has some really good provisions in place for the animals if she is to bite the dust anytime soon good god, i hope she isnt going to give them to some woman who is careless and heartless enough to walk her animals near traffic – after all, they might lose a leg!!!
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flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance! This, in a nutshell, is what it is all about: attention and control. Nothing at all to do with love of animals. Simply an attempt to compensate for what they don’t have in their real lives. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies — says hunnybunnyfunnybunny: http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834/index.html
From the article at:
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/okl/news/stories/news-879153200107 18-170746.html OKLAHOMA CITY, 10:31 p.m. CDT July 18, 2001 — A kitten who was tortured by being dipped in hot tar got a new home and a new name on Wednesday. The kitten was brought to the Oklahoma City Animal Shelter on July 2 by a landfill employee who found the animal wandering along south Bryant Avenue in Oklahoma City. Although hundreds of people wanted to raise Yoda, as she was called by shelter employees, Mary Meredith, 70, was selected to adopt the
still-scarred feline, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – whom she plans to re-name Angel. "Because I think angels were with her … that’s why she’s here," she said. Although Meredith has four other cats, she said that she didn’t hestitate in taking in another. "When I saw this cat on TV, something went through my heart," she said. "I had to have this baby." Authorities are still offering a reward of up to $2,000 for information about who covered the kitten with tar.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten?
Let’s hope that the shelter took that into consideration, and that provisions have already been made for the kitten in the event of her owner’s death. We should all be doing the exact same thing (making arrangements for the care of our pets in the event of our untimely deaths). You don’t have to be 70 years old to die and leave your pets homeless and at the mercy of whatever shelter they get dumped at.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best
candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies ‘Tain’t necessarily so. I know a woman who is 80 years old and is not only is she still working full-time – and by that I mean 12 hour days – as a high-powered business executive in NYC, she works out at the gym [and I mean *works out*] nearly every day, and that includes weekends. She’s also got a pretty active love life and loves to go tango dancing! And then there was Katharine Graham, who was killed in an accident recently while on a business trip: she was still running the Washington Post at the age of 84. And, now that I think of it, I know a 94 year old woman – graduated Radcliffe College in 1929, *more* than 70 years ago – who is still working. For God’s sake, Theodore Roosevelt was her godfather! And my grandmother lived to be 101, and she walked a mile every day until the end of her life. Keeping active mentally and physically and being in touch with people helps keep you young, I believe. And so-called ‘old age’ just doesn’t mean what it used to any more, especially for women, who tend to live longer than men anyway. You may remove your undies now. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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: better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless : enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog : losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk : their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron Man, I love it when people carry such a big vendetta they have to bring it to any thread whether it has anything to do with their vendetta or not. Posting to threads that have nothing to do with your vendetta does *not* mnake you look more credible. In fact, it gives you a whole lot less credibility. I’m beginning to understand why Phil called you a troll a while back. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years.
I hope its not a kill shelter you work at. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice? You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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hunnybunnyfunnybunny(hbfb) wrote in No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Sounds discriminatory to me. Why should seniors be denied the sharing of affections with a companion animal? Should I, now at age 52, look to surrender my young felines, because there is the possibility I’ll die before them. My lass, there is always a possibility, no matter the age, no matter the source, be it from bullet, cancer, or coronary, that I’ll leave this earth ahead of my furries. I can just as much control the length of my life as command the sun to stop shining. As long as the woman is capable of love and caring for Yoda’s extensive needs, what the hell else matters! Quality, not the quantity of life, is what matters most. While the latter is in God’s hands, the former is in ours. —dave k
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The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful.
I was quoting from the orginal poster’s statement, which I’m inclined to believe is true – these sad cases which get publicity always get a host of people rushing to help, though admittedly not all of them would be suitable. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway.
Who rattled your cage? I’m entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours. I haven’t seen any footage of this, just a bald statement of fact that a 70 year old was given this kitten. It’s interesting how you feel the need to sink to personal attacks just to make your point. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction.
Oh really? Do please give examples of my "negativity". IIRC, you’re the one who favours the death penalty, I’d say you can’t get more negative in your outlook than that. As for this kitten, I’d say I’m a realist. As somebody who works for a charity which takes in the pets of elderly people who have died, I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years. If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted about three times in the last week IIRC. Helen
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted in two threads in the last week IIRC. Helen
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I hope its not a kill shelter you work at.
your memory’s getting rusty, Michelle, must be all those declawing threads you’re engrossed in. I’m in UK where kill shelters are virtually unheard of, and no, I don’t work for one of the kill shelters. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice?
It’s not my choice, it’s the shelter policy but yes I do agree with it. Elderly people are not denied a cat, they are offered adult cats instead. Get over it. You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time.
So? No, not all seniors are geriatric or ill, but the chances of a 70 year old living another 15 years are by definition not as high as those for a 40 or 50 or 20 year old. It is therefore a factor in the decision. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination.
If elderly people choose to get cats from free ads, fine, we can’t stop them and it’s not our responsibility. But for those cats we are responsible for, we make rules we think are best for the *cats*. Pray do tell where all these elderly litigants are going to get free food and vet care from? There is no law against age discrimination in the UK at present, we are not as litigious a society as you anyway, and finally, in the UK you have no legal right to own a pet. So they wouldn’t get a penny off us. Hope this settles things for you because unlike others I’m not going to be dragged into your endless, tedious arguments. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen
You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other? So long, the rest of you. Enjoy. Jen
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Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is.
Its the ones that have no respect or tolerance for others and think the world should be run the way they say it should be run. they’re just little control freaks….just remember what goes around comes around and one day they’ll get theirs. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
The lady looked pretty damned spry to me… and since my father-in-law just passed away last year at 98, still living alone in his own home till he was 97, dating a woman 20 years his junior, ballroom dancing, bowling, walking at the mall, doing his own house work, laundry, and cooking… I’d say she was worth the chance. Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is. Jen
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<snip They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen
The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction. Jen
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: legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we : realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on : the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that : freedom of speech thing Fine, but dont’ expect anyone to believe you over her. Go ahead and do so, you just make yourself look stupid and less credible. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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you just make yourself look stupid and less credible.
stupid? ***i’m*** not the one who walked my dog near automobile traffic – arent cars dangerous to dogs? hmmmmm, not sure…..lemme think……maybe i should just do it anyway – surely it wont be a problem
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WHat is WITH you?? Knock it off! Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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What ARE you talking about? She did not do anything to her dog. Please, either join the forum and stop being obsessive or just don’t contribute to a thread. Please. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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::Plonk!::
water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance!
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water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets, dance!
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home
who said anything about being the *BEST* candidate – were you the *BEST* person that could have adopted your animals? – im sure that there was someone better that could have and would have taken them are you saying that this woman is not entitled to the joy of pet ownership simply because she is old? give her a break – maybe she has some really good provisions in place for the animals if she is to bite the dust anytime soon good god, i hope she isnt going to give them to some woman who is careless and heartless enough to walk her animals near traffic – after all, they might lose a leg!!!
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flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance! This, in a nutshell, is what it is all about: attention and control. Nothing at all to do with love of animals. Simply an attempt to compensate for what they don’t have in their real lives. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies — says hunnybunnyfunnybunny: http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834/index.html
From the article at:
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/okl/news/stories/news-879153200107 18-170746.html OKLAHOMA CITY, 10:31 p.m. CDT July 18, 2001 — A kitten who was tortured by being dipped in hot tar got a new home and a new name on Wednesday. The kitten was brought to the Oklahoma City Animal Shelter on July 2 by a landfill employee who found the animal wandering along south Bryant Avenue in Oklahoma City. Although hundreds of people wanted to raise Yoda, as she was called by shelter employees, Mary Meredith, 70, was selected to adopt the
still-scarred feline, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – whom she plans to re-name Angel. "Because I think angels were with her … that’s why she’s here," she said. Although Meredith has four other cats, she said that she didn’t hestitate in taking in another. "When I saw this cat on TV, something went through my heart," she said. "I had to have this baby." Authorities are still offering a reward of up to $2,000 for information about who covered the kitten with tar.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten?
Let’s hope that the shelter took that into consideration, and that provisions have already been made for the kitten in the event of her owner’s death. We should all be doing the exact same thing (making arrangements for the care of our pets in the event of our untimely deaths). You don’t have to be 70 years old to die and leave your pets homeless and at the mercy of whatever shelter they get dumped at.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best
candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies ‘Tain’t necessarily so. I know a woman who is 80 years old and is not only is she still working full-time – and by that I mean 12 hour days – as a high-powered business executive in NYC, she works out at the gym [and I mean *works out*] nearly every day, and that includes weekends. She’s also got a pretty active love life and loves to go tango dancing! And then there was Katharine Graham, who was killed in an accident recently while on a business trip: she was still running the Washington Post at the age of 84. And, now that I think of it, I know a 94 year old woman – graduated Radcliffe College in 1929, *more* than 70 years ago – who is still working. For God’s sake, Theodore Roosevelt was her godfather! And my grandmother lived to be 101, and she walked a mile every day until the end of her life. Keeping active mentally and physically and being in touch with people helps keep you young, I believe. And so-called ‘old age’ just doesn’t mean what it used to any more, especially for women, who tend to live longer than men anyway. You may remove your undies now. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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: better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless : enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog : losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk : their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron Man, I love it when people carry such a big vendetta they have to bring it to any thread whether it has anything to do with their vendetta or not. Posting to threads that have nothing to do with your vendetta does *not* mnake you look more credible. In fact, it gives you a whole lot less credibility. I’m beginning to understand why Phil called you a troll a while back. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years.
I hope its not a kill shelter you work at. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice? You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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hunnybunnyfunnybunny(hbfb) wrote in No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Sounds discriminatory to me. Why should seniors be denied the sharing of affections with a companion animal? Should I, now at age 52, look to surrender my young felines, because there is the possibility I’ll die before them. My lass, there is always a possibility, no matter the age, no matter the source, be it from bullet, cancer, or coronary, that I’ll leave this earth ahead of my furries. I can just as much control the length of my life as command the sun to stop shining. As long as the woman is capable of love and caring for Yoda’s extensive needs, what the hell else matters! Quality, not the quantity of life, is what matters most. While the latter is in God’s hands, the former is in ours. —dave k
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The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful.
I was quoting from the orginal poster’s statement, which I’m inclined to believe is true – these sad cases which get publicity always get a host of people rushing to help, though admittedly not all of them would be suitable. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway.
Who rattled your cage? I’m entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours. I haven’t seen any footage of this, just a bald statement of fact that a 70 year old was given this kitten. It’s interesting how you feel the need to sink to personal attacks just to make your point. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction.
Oh really? Do please give examples of my "negativity". IIRC, you’re the one who favours the death penalty, I’d say you can’t get more negative in your outlook than that. As for this kitten, I’d say I’m a realist. As somebody who works for a charity which takes in the pets of elderly people who have died, I stand by my opinion that the odds are this cat will have to be rehomed again at some point in the future, and the shelters I help at would never have chosen this home for her for that reason. A person of that age would not be refused a cat, they’d be given one of older years. If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted about three times in the last week IIRC. Helen
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You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other?
Hmm, I notice you never answered my question and now you make references to "my crew", lol. I think you’re confusing me with somebody else. I didn’t know I had a crew and besides, I hardly ever post here these days, so I’m sure I’ll cope when only "the crew" remain, whoever they are. Unlike some here, this ng is hardly my life. This thread is one of only a handful I’ve actually read in the last few days and I’ve only posted in two threads in the last week IIRC. Helen
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I hope its not a kill shelter you work at.
your memory’s getting rusty, Michelle, must be all those declawing threads you’re engrossed in. I’m in UK where kill shelters are virtually unheard of, and no, I don’t work for one of the kill shelters. And since when did a person’s age make it not acceptable for them to get a kitten? Who do you think you are to deny them that choice?
It’s not my choice, it’s the shelter policy but yes I do agree with it. Elderly people are not denied a cat, they are offered adult cats instead. Get over it. You do realize people can die at any age don’t you and 70 isn’t all that old. My parents are in their 70’s, travel alot and just bought a new home. My grandmother is 92 and up until 6 months ago lived in her own home, she just moved into an assisted living complex and even though her meals are provided still cooks and bakes all the time.
So? No, not all seniors are geriatric or ill, but the chances of a 70 year old living another 15 years are by definition not as high as those for a 40 or 50 or 20 year old. It is therefore a factor in the decision. If a senior citizen wants to have a kitten they can find one easily enough in the newspaper and then can get free food and vet care for the cats life after they sue your butt for age discrimination.
If elderly people choose to get cats from free ads, fine, we can’t stop them and it’s not our responsibility. But for those cats we are responsible for, we make rules we think are best for the *cats*. Pray do tell where all these elderly litigants are going to get free food and vet care from? There is no law against age discrimination in the UK at present, we are not as litigious a society as you anyway, and finally, in the UK you have no legal right to own a pet. So they wouldn’t get a penny off us. Hope this settles things for you because unlike others I’m not going to be dragged into your endless, tedious arguments. Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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If you don’t like "this joint", you can always leave. Helen
You know… I think I will. I can get any helpful info I might need for my furbabies from Phil’s site. You and your crew can have it. But one of these days, it’ll just be y’all in here – what will you do then? Eat each other? So long, the rest of you. Enjoy. Jen
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Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is.
Its the ones that have no respect or tolerance for others and think the world should be run the way they say it should be run. they’re just little control freaks….just remember what goes around comes around and one day they’ll get theirs. Posts made by the hate mongers and trolls of this group are being blocked. Their lies, threats and abuse will not be responded to. Check out http://members.aol.com/SLK03 to see how I truly feel about my cats and the love I have for them. Peace : )
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
The lady looked pretty damned spry to me… and since my father-in-law just passed away last year at 98, still living alone in his own home till he was 97, dating a woman 20 years his junior, ballroom dancing, bowling, walking at the mall, doing his own house work, laundry, and cooking… I’d say she was worth the chance. Just amazes me that the same folks find fault EVERY time with EVERYthing, no matter what it is. Jen
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<snip They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen
The had four applicants who qualified, I believe. Can’t remember ever seeing there were ‘hundreds’ to choose from – but I’m old and forgetful. She’s a very sweet lady with four other cats and a history with the same vet since 1968… TarBaby/Yoda/Angel looked happy as a clam curled up on her new bed, snoozin’ like a queen. Her life’s radically different that what it started out to be – for heaven’s sake (as the bumpersticker says) Quitcherbitchin’ and be happy for them both. A homeless, hopeless, abused animal has a home and it looks like a damned good one! We’re Oh So Sorry we didn’t get all the nay-sayers approval – which would probably have been impossible anyway. Sheesh. The negativity in this joint just gets worse and worse… and it always seems to come from the same direction. Jen
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: legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we : realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on : the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that : freedom of speech thing Fine, but dont’ expect anyone to believe you over her. Go ahead and do so, you just make yourself look stupid and less credible. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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you just make yourself look stupid and less credible.
stupid? ***i’m*** not the one who walked my dog near automobile traffic – arent cars dangerous to dogs? hmmmmm, not sure…..lemme think……maybe i should just do it anyway – surely it wont be a problem
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WHat is WITH you?? Knock it off! Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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What ARE you talking about? She did not do anything to her dog. Please, either join the forum and stop being obsessive or just don’t contribute to a thread. Please. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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::Plonk!::
water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance!
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water off a ducks back, hun – water off a ducks back the reason i continue to make fun of the animal abusers that get their dogs legs cut off is because they get so defensive (as a lot of us do when we realize that we have committed a terrible wrong and someone has called us on the carpet about it) – anyway, its fun and i will continue – gotta love that freedom of speech thing flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets, dance!
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home
who said anything about being the *BEST* candidate – were you the *BEST* person that could have adopted your animals? – im sure that there was someone better that could have and would have taken them are you saying that this woman is not entitled to the joy of pet ownership simply because she is old? give her a break – maybe she has some really good provisions in place for the animals if she is to bite the dust anytime soon good god, i hope she isnt going to give them to some woman who is careless and heartless enough to walk her animals near traffic – after all, they might lose a leg!!!
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flame away – i love the attention – you are my puppets – dance, puppets,
dance! This, in a nutshell, is what it is all about: attention and control. Nothing at all to do with love of animals. Simply an attempt to compensate for what they don’t have in their real lives. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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and *that* is precisely the reason i like to chastise animal abusers that put their animals in harm’s way – only to shout "FOUL!" when the obvious outcome of their abuse takes place – if you walk an animal near automible traffic, there is a very good chance that your animal may be hurt – anyone who does that is either a moron or an animal abuser <meow
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies — says hunnybunnyfunnybunny: http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834/index.html
From the article at:
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/okl/news/stories/news-879153200107 18-170746.html OKLAHOMA CITY, 10:31 p.m. CDT July 18, 2001 — A kitten who was tortured by being dipped in hot tar got a new home and a new name on Wednesday. The kitten was brought to the Oklahoma City Animal Shelter on July 2 by a landfill employee who found the animal wandering along south Bryant Avenue in Oklahoma City. Although hundreds of people wanted to raise Yoda, as she was called by shelter employees, Mary Meredith, 70, was selected to adopt the
still-scarred feline, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – whom she plans to re-name Angel. "Because I think angels were with her … that’s why she’s here," she said. Although Meredith has four other cats, she said that she didn’t hestitate in taking in another. "When I saw this cat on TV, something went through my heart," she said. "I had to have this baby." Authorities are still offering a reward of up to $2,000 for information about who covered the kitten with tar.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten?
Let’s hope that the shelter took that into consideration, and that provisions have already been made for the kitten in the event of her owner’s death. We should all be doing the exact same thing (making arrangements for the care of our pets in the event of our untimely deaths). You don’t have to be 70 years old to die and leave your pets homeless and at the mercy of whatever shelter they get dumped at.
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies
Actually, I’d been thinking the exact same thing. They had "hundreds" of applicants, I really cannot believe a 70 year old was the best they could do for a kitten. For an older cat, no problem, but a kitten? Helen — * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tanya’s UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre: http://users.ouvip.com/tanya
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No offense, but I don’t see how a 70 yr. old could possibly be the best
candidate for a new home. It’s unlikely she wil be healthy enough in 10-15 years time and then that poor kitty will likely have to be rehomed yet again. JMO. <dons asbestos undies ‘Tain’t necessarily so. I know a woman who is 80 years old and is not only is she still working full-time – and by that I mean 12 hour days – as a high-powered business executive in NYC, she works out at the gym [and I mean *works out*] nearly every day, and that includes weekends. She’s also got a pretty active love life and loves to go tango dancing! And then there was Katharine Graham, who was killed in an accident recently while on a business trip: she was still running the Washington Post at the age of 84. And, now that I think of it, I know a 94 year old woman – graduated Radcliffe College in 1929, *more* than 70 years ago – who is still working. For God’s sake, Theodore Roosevelt was her godfather! And my grandmother lived to be 101, and she walked a mile every day until the end of her life. Keeping active mentally and physically and being in touch with people helps keep you young, I believe. And so-called ‘old age’ just doesn’t mean what it used to any more, especially for women, who tend to live longer than men anyway. You may remove your undies now. Thalassa www.freelori.org I would not creep along the coast, but steer Out in mid-sea, by guidance of the stars.
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better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron
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: better a 70 yr old woman than an animal abuser like patch – she was careless : enough to walk her dog near traffic and was therefore responsible for her dog : losing a leg – some people should never have animals – sheesh – who would walk : their dog right near a roadway???? what a moron Man, I love it when people carry such a big vendetta they have to bring it to any thread whether it has anything to do with their vendetta or not. Posting to threads that have nothing to do with your vendetta does *not* mnake you look more credible. In fact, it gives you a whole lot less credibility. I’m beginning to understand why Phil called you a troll a while back. Tigress — The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren’t worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes ‘em testy. …Bev | _,,,—,,_ Tigress /,`.-’`’ -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress ’—”(_/–’ `-’_) Cat by Felix Lee.
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