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Here is my 2 cents….. Even though I think that my foster daughters mom is a swell person…I dont know her well mind you and it COULD all be an act..that does NOT give me the right to go against the service plan and allow them to see each other or call each other more that what is stated in the court documents. I do not know certain info because it is not my job to worry with the biological parents until I am directed to do so. My job is to take care of the children for as long as it takes the biological parents to get the children home with them. If I allowed my foster daughter to see her mom it could blow all the progress made by the biomom and the foster daughter. So IMO that foster mom had no right going against what the state wanted in the grandchildrens case….

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:50:35 -0400 (EDT), cystershan…@webtv.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Simons Mom) wrote: >Here is my 2 cents….. >Even though I think that my foster daughters mom is a swell person…I >dont know her well mind you and it COULD all be an act..that does NOT >give me the right to go against the service plan and allow them to see >each other or call each other more that what is stated in the court >documents. >I do not know certain info because it is not my job to worry with the >biological parents until I am directed to do so. My job is to take care >of the children for as long as it takes the biological parents to get >the children home with them. If I allowed my foster daughter to see her >mom it could blow all the progress made by the biomom and the foster >daughter. >So IMO that foster mom had no right going against what the state wanted >in the grandchildrens case….

Ever wonder why those undergoing surgery don’t tell the surgeon her job, and direct the operation themselves, eh?  Or get their relatives in to supervise and manage the operating room? Seems everyone knows how to do casework better than the caseworker. Or so the media suggests. r r r r r This constant fog obscures those instances when a caseworker does screw up big time, thus concealing the facts, and reducing the chances they’ll be caught and corrected. There are none here so supportive of BAD casework than those that constantly badmouth caseworkers. There seem to be a few foster parents that scream at workers to do the job better while performing a Tanya Harding on their kneecap. (not that incompetent caseworkers don’t occasionally make foster parent’s lives hell) Thanks for doing foster care well. And for having the sense to know who is supposed to be doing what job for the best overall outcome. Kane

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On 27 Jun 2003 22:31:02 GMT, fern5…@aol.com (Fern5827) wrote: >Subject: Honest Foster Mom sides with GM against DSS-MA Massachusetts >From: fern5…@aol.com  (Fern5827) >Date: 6/26/2003 12:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <20030626123720.10018.00000…@mb-m26.aol.com> >See what happens to honest, concerned Foster parents?

No actually I don’t. I see what happened to this one though. Let’s give it a go around and see if we can figure out what is actually happening, rather than your usual biased ramble, eh, Portulacca? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->FWD aa: >Subject: Grandmother Adoption Controversy Continues >From: lilmtn…@aol.comnospam  (LilMtnCbn) >Date: 6/26/2003 1:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <20030626010446.03203.00001…@mb-m03.aol.com> >http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7E25CFD4-330C-4A… >48-DB096CF4DC6F >Grandmother Adoption Controversy Continues >LAST UPDATE: 6/25/2003 9:59:30 PM >Posted By: Carly Miller >Ferline Mass says the state won’t let her care for her own grandchildren. Now, >the foster family caring for the kids say they’re being targeted too.

And you, as usual, believe what you are told. The idea that there could be another side, or even sides, to the issue is something you don’t allow into your Root Crown, do you? >The foster famiy says they’re being punished because they side with Ferline >Mass.

Just how is she being punished, and exactly for what? >Karen Taylor is the foster parent to Mass’s three grandchildren, all girls >under the age of 5. But she may not be their foster parent for long. >"It’s stemming from me having the best interest of the children at heart. I >start asking questions and it seems I shouldn’t have been asking questions," >said Taylor.

I’m afraid the Taylor is as ignorant as you are. And aren’t you just warmed by the thought of a foster parent having "the best interests" as part of her statement? Funny, you seem to go off all Seed Pod Shattering on us if anyone else says that. The one place that I can fault a great many foster parents is in their belief that they are better judges of and have the right to case decision making. In fact it’s one of the prime reasons that case workers state in their dislike of SOME foster parents. It really screws up a case that may be going in favor of the very person the foster parent thinks they are "helping" by getting their noses in the mix. >Taylor claims the children’s shelter is retaliating against her because she >asked that her foster kids be able to visit their grandmother.

The "children’s shelter"? Something fishy there. I suspect they are saying "no more kiddies to you, Taylor, until you get it that you could be messing with things that you only THINK you know about, but you don’t." >"I said my kids, my children, especially the oldest, keeps asking why can’t she >see her grandmother, so I brought it up in court and they weren’t happy with me >for saying that," said Taylor.

Dear me. How did foster children suddenly become possessions of the foster parent? No, Taylor doesn’t know they are pissed at her for trying to interfer in a case not yet resolved. And they express that upset with her by kicking her ass out of the loop. Rather a sound decision it seems, all and all. >Taylor says the shelter revoked her foster care license after she allowed one >of the children to talk to their grandmother on the phone.

And were it in the service plan or had she been informed not to do so? I wonder why? Well, I can think of two reasons….grannie isn’t vetted yet as safe for the children, or grannie hasn’t made it clear to the agency she will keep them safe and maintain the boundaries from her own child that abused or neglected these children in foster care, or that grannie HAS been chosen and everyone is trying desperately to complete the case and get the children too her, but someone, someone, someone, is sticking their nose in and doing things that could be used to shitcan the case in favor of someone else…like the other grand parents or the abusive parents. >The children’s shelter admits it is trying to take the children away from >Taylor.

You betcha. She may be putting them in jeapordy, but for sure she is NOT following standard safety practices for children in care. Foster parents cannot just willynilly decide who is and who isn’t safe for the children to be around or even talk to. And the children may well, as is most oft the case, be involved with their worker in preparing for the move, and things haven’t progressed to the point they can be told they are to be with their grannie. Some kids don’t even like their grandparents. I know I hated one, loved the other. >But the children’s shelter won’t say why it doesn’t want the kids to have >contact with their grandmother.

Oh sure, they are just dying to get sued so the people of the state can have yet another expense to shoulder. Darn those CPS people actually performing according to policy. Lots of people run into the "won’t say why" about lots of things related to child welfare cases still underway, Pumpkin. It’s the best way. Even attorneys can’t have ALL the information on a case, believe it or not. >Now a judge is stepping in, ordering the children to stay right where they are, >with the foster family, until all sides can work this out, for the good of the >children.

Oh goodie. Now a dumb judge will screw up the works. Next to the fosters that try to manage cases I hear workers rank judges who try to do welfare case work about three notches higher on their "dumb shit" meter. Let us hope this judge is smarter than that. Though if the end result was to get the children to their grandmother (and notice no where does it say that wasn’t the goal in the first place) maybe this will just result in the same outcome. I hope all the folks that want to interfer don’t muck it up for grannie. >The children’s grandmother goes to court on Thursday to try to adopt the >children herself.

Goody for grandma. But of course what made her think she wouldn’t be the one that got them in the first place I wonder. Why did she solicite the foster parent and drag her into it I wonder? Could there be less than a clean agenda going on, or is it just ignorance on the part of grannie, I wonder? >Keep it tuned to News 4 WOAI for the very latest.

I estimate that the media gets child welfare cases they report on correct about 7% of the time. The rest is biased garbage based on ignorance, or withholding material so they can excite the even more ignorant public. You been had, Cacti. Had. Again. >Note===Same story happened this spring in Georgia, GA with DFACS. Foster >parent quit over how birth family were treated by CPS there.

Thank goodness. Most likely another foster parent that thought they were supposed to be a caseworker. But then I could be wrong. Could be they had the Wisdom, and viciousness of Solomon. Remember that Solomon would have had the child slashed in half had the mother not given up her child out of love. Methinks we have a similar situation here. Taylor being Solomon. Most likely if there is enough static put out and enough malice the person that should have gotten the children will not get them. CPS workers get this quite often I hear. Then THEY get blamed for blowing the case. "How could you let the foster parent and the grannie do this to the children?" snipping the usual pandering to ignorance……….. Kane

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